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  • Rewal of reentry permit and existing RP

    My first RP expires in May'2014 and after going through several past discussions, I understand that I can enter the country before the expiry to submit an application for renewal and either leave after the biometrics are collected, or leave after the application has been delivered and return back to give the biometrics. However, I am missing to understand something and request some clarity in a couple of scenarios:
    - Let us say I come right before the expiry, send in the application, and leave after the expiry without waiting for biometrics appointment. Will I not have a problem to reenter the country for biometrics appointment since the RP would have already expired?
    - Let us say, I enter the country too soon, much before the expiry, to send in the application. As per recommendation, I should submit the current RP along with the application. Considering I don't want to wait here for the biometrics appointment, how can I reenter back for the bio, since I won't even have an RP with me?

    PS: Apologies for the typo in the subject. Anyway to edit it?

  • #2
    When you re-enter the US the SECOND time, you will have been out of the country only for a few weeks, so you will not need the RP.

    The other thing is you need not necessarily send in your old RP. If, say, you apply with only a month left on your RP, chances are low that the new one will be issued while the old one is still valid. If you want hold on to it for your records/peace of mind, you can write in the application that the old RP is "set to expire." The'll see the date, and will not hassle you about it.
    *** El Cafe ***

    N400 - NYC (Brooklyn)
    March 12 2010: Sent
    April 7 2010: FP done- walk-in
    August 3 2010: ID decision not made
    December 12 2010: Lawsuit filed under 8 USC 1447(b)
    March 31 2011: 31 Oath date
    April 1 2011: Passport applied, picked up!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cafeconleche View Post
      When you re-enter the US the SECOND time, you will have been out of the country only for a few weeks, so you will not need the RP.

      The other thing is you need not necessarily send in your old RP. If, say, you apply with only a month left on your RP, chances are low that the new one will be issued while the old one is still valid. If you want hold on to it for your records/peace of mind, you can write in the application that the old RP is "set to expire." The'll see the date, and will not hassle you about it.
      Thank you for the response! So, RP is only needed strictly when away for more than 1yr since the last travel? I travelled in May'2013 for 2 weeks and when I travelled again recently, I got stamped in the RP instead of the passport (I gave both my passport and RP, and the inspector returned tje passport without even looking in). Is this expected?

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      • #4
        Yeah, if you provide the RP, they'll take that because with the RP, you don't need a passport. Many people travel with just the RP and no passport sometimes (asylees/refugees). So, yeah, you technically don't need the RP if your trip is just for a couple of months. If you have back-to-back trips, it's good to have it on your person in case they give you trouble for that, but really, you won't need it.
        *** El Cafe ***

        N400 - NYC (Brooklyn)
        March 12 2010: Sent
        April 7 2010: FP done- walk-in
        August 3 2010: ID decision not made
        December 12 2010: Lawsuit filed under 8 USC 1447(b)
        March 31 2011: 31 Oath date
        April 1 2011: Passport applied, picked up!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by irha View Post
          Thank you for the response! So, RP is only needed strictly when away for more than 1yr since the last travel? I travelled in May'2013 for 2 weeks and when I travelled again recently, I got stamped in the RP instead of the passport (I gave both my passport and RP, and the inspector returned tje passport without even looking in). Is this expected?
          Thanks for the clarification!

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          • #6
            Here is my experience so far. First of all, I got confused with the AP process and assumed that the application could be submitted online, in any case I mailed my application on Apr 21st and got an email notice on Apr 25th and paper receipt on Apr 29th. The biometrics appointment letter was however not received until May 12th, and the appointment was given at Modesto for Jun 5th (almost 7 weeks from the day I posted). I was a little worried that it is after my return journey, so I started googling for walk-in and learned that the people at Modesto are not very friendly and that they only accept walk-in on Wednesday's so I was prepared to go next Wednesday. Meanwhile I also came to know that you can pretty much walk-in to any office, not just the one where you got your appointment at, so tried a walk-in at San Francisco today and it was a breeze. I went there slightly after 7:30am and there were about 7 folks already waiting in the line. By 8am, the security guard came out and verified the letter and ID, and he was really friendly and jovial. By that time there were about 15 folks and he told us that we will all be done by 8:45am. In another 10min, we were allowed in and by 8:35am I am out. Entire staff was very courteous and another security guard was like "please come again for your needs, we are much better than the Modesto office ". I hope this information is useful to others.

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